From yechiel Wed Jul 26 08:01:29 2006 Subject: Re: lebanon war To: yakoub.abaya@gmail.com (yakoub abaya) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 08:01:29 +0300 (IDT) In-Reply-To: <44C63FF1.6030601@gmail.com> > > when hizbollah kidnapped two soldiers Israel should have filed > an official complaint to the united nations demanding the release > of its soldiers and appropriate fines on hizbollah and its supporters Yeah, sure ;-D Well, according to international law any country that is attacked (and Hezbollah also attacked civilian villages at the same incident, just to emphasize my point) has the right to react and retaliate. Period. > the united nations and other major western countries are already > involved in Lebanon even before the killing of hariery , moreover > those parties have been very politically critical about hizbollah , > so the chances that they would act upon Israels complaint is very high > and the chances for them to be successful are much higher than Israels > offensive . like the UN helping Hezbollah when they had kidnapped the three Israeli soldiers near Mt. Hermon a couple of years ago? > even if some UN members halts such actions , Israel could then turn > to Nato alliance for support which has much more legitimacy to > act than Israel given that Israel have been occupying south Lebanon and to give the Hezbollah/Iran ... the chances to claim that Israel is a puppet of some other countries that save her. > In addition to all this the lebanies government have been negotiating > with hizbollah about its military presence and political agenda but > Israel have failed to take advantage of that too . So why six years were not enough for the Lebanese to fulfill UN resolution 1559 that demands the retreat of Hezbollah and a Lebanese forces assigned on the border with Israel? > so can you explain please why have Israel undertaken such high risk policy ? Risky more to the Hezbollah, which you support. Indeed, Israel suffers too, but shi would have suffered more if Hezbollah came out the winner of their attack on Israel. No pain, no gain. > Hizbollah demands the land of shibaa and the release of prisoners , Which was declared _by_the_UN_ as an illegal demand. > those demands can be fully arbitrated according to international law It already had been - Hezbollah has only false claims. > so why isn't this done and then the disarmament of hizbollah > will be much more legitimate . Hezbollah disarmament is the only legitimate action concerning it (together with its destruction, as long as it is armed) Yes, 1559 again. > couldn't Israel bare the lives of five soldiers against the whole lebanies > nation in order to try and solve this peacefully without the destruction > of Lebanon ? Since Lebanon, practically, supports Hezbollah (they are part of the coalition and the government there), they are responsible for the loss and suffering of their people. > my belief right now is that Israels high rank army officers (all respect ) > have taken advantage of Israel's weak government and US offensive So why is it that 99% of the Jewish Israelis support this operation? It has nothing to do with a strong or a weak government. The fact that the Israeli Arabs do not appear to support the operation (though, in fact, many do) is just a black spot on those opponents (Jews and Arabs alike). > in Iraq to launch their own offensive to take revenge against > hizbollah's claims of defeating them so it is just a pity fight > about who is stronger and who is the boss . Well, all Hezbollah has to do is to stop terrorism, isn't it? > more worryingly Israel is taken advantage of by > foreign bodies that are interested in the destruction > of hizbollah and fighting against Islamic defiance . Ditto. > i base my belief on the historical fact that army officers > of all nationalities and regimes no matter how highly ranked > have been highly mistaken in understanding their state policy Like the allies armies during WWII ? Or the Israeli army during the 1973 war ? > and as a results acted against its interests , or more strait forward : > armies know only how to fight and make war and they should > stay always under the leach of democratic policy makers Since Hezbollah is not democratic, as its supporters Iran and Syria, you do not ask them the same; namely, your point is that you support the non-democratic, Islam-fanatic forces - always. Hope springs eternal Yechiel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Try Google search "fighting the Hezbollah" [I'm feeling lucky] "The main difference between us is that I take Israel's right to exist for granted - and you don't" The wife of a former Israeli Ambassador to a journalist